1 00:00:12,250 --> 00:00:06,150 you 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:14,160 [Music] 3 00:00:19,180 --> 00:00:17,330 hi my name is Kat and I would like to 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:19,190 share with you one of my favorite images 5 00:00:25,749 --> 00:00:23,210 Earthrise so this was taken by Apollo 8 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:25,759 in the 60s and it is a decade since then 7 00:00:33,189 --> 00:00:27,770 we've been able to explore the solar 8 00:00:34,810 --> 00:00:33,199 system further and beyond in fact we've 9 00:00:35,850 --> 00:00:34,820 been able to image planets around other 10 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:35,860 stars 11 00:00:42,009 --> 00:00:40,129 this is HR 8799 one of the self-luminous 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:42,019 giant planets that current direct 13 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:44,090 imaging surveys are able to study in the 14 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:46,910 near-infrared and then on a flip slide 15 00:00:51,459 --> 00:00:49,100 in terms of smaller planets we've been 16 00:00:54,729 --> 00:00:51,469 able to study those around ultra cool 17 00:00:59,920 --> 00:00:54,739 and low mass host stars using the using 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:00:59,930 transit spectroscopy and then locating 19 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:03,530 decades after today we have the James 20 00:01:09,370 --> 00:01:05,590 Webb Space Telescope coming online and 21 00:01:11,020 --> 00:01:09,380 we have w first hab X and d'Ivoire and 22 00:01:13,749 --> 00:01:11,030 what do these three have in common 23 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:13,759 they're all interested in imaging 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:16,310 exoplanets around sun-like stars in the 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:22,010 visible take W first for example here we 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:24,290 have the planet to start contrast ratio 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:26,930 versus separation and this is what I was 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:28,490 mentioning earlier about the self 29 00:01:32,830 --> 00:01:30,170 luminous giant planets for the current 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:32,840 state of direct imaging with W first and 31 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:34,130 it's coronagraph we're going to be able 32 00:01:38,380 --> 00:01:36,350 to cover this part of the regime to 33 00:01:40,149 --> 00:01:38,390 study non transiting planets and that 34 00:01:43,330 --> 00:01:40,159 are those that are cooler in temperature 35 00:01:45,399 --> 00:01:43,340 and then coming down over here if you 36 00:01:47,230 --> 00:01:45,409 recall - Maggie turn balls talked on 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:47,240 Monday where she mentioned the 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:49,130 possibility of pairing a star shade with 39 00:01:59,889 --> 00:01:57,890 W first this once we over plot the 40 00:02:02,530 --> 00:01:59,899 contrast curve for W first and star 41 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:02,540 shade this is where we have the four 42 00:02:06,609 --> 00:02:04,790 system planets at ten parsecs so this 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:06,619 tells us that W firs might have the 44 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:09,890 possibility of imaging rocky exoplanets 45 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:15,200 in the future and so when these missions 46 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:17,360 take the images of the planets we're 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:19,040 going to get spectroscopy on them and 48 00:02:23,410 --> 00:02:21,170 we're also get going to get data that 49 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:23,420 are noisy and the challenge will be to 50 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:25,250 backing out the properties of these 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:25,830 planets 52 00:02:36,860 --> 00:02:30,330 and given the data quality we want to 53 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:36,870 know how robustly will we be able to get 54 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:44,940 those information and more importantly 55 00:02:50,030 --> 00:02:46,560 how do we quantify that so I'm going to 56 00:02:55,310 --> 00:02:50,040 be talking about how we use how we're 57 00:02:57,050 --> 00:02:55,320 going to simulate data in order to we're 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:57,060 going to simulate data and then we're 59 00:03:00,740 --> 00:02:58,770 going to build a retrieval tool that 60 00:03:03,940 --> 00:03:00,750 will then help us constrain those 61 00:03:09,650 --> 00:03:03,950 properties based on our simulated data 62 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:09,660 ok so let's start with a spectrum of the 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:13,110 earth here we have the Geo Metro sources 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:14,250 wavelengths going from the near 65 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:16,410 ultraviolet to the infra red and all 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:18,450 three missions that I mentioned are 67 00:03:22,190 --> 00:03:20,010 going to be interested in exploring the 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:22,200 possibility of imaging the visible 69 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:24,210 wavelengths and in this particular 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:25,980 region there are many interesting 71 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:28,410 features that we'd be that we will 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:31,560 capture with our model to begin we have 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:36,570 the nitrogen really scattering and then 74 00:03:43,940 --> 00:03:40,410 we have water absorption that I will 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:43,950 mark somehow yes Rayleigh scattering 76 00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:49,010 water absorption ozone absorption is 77 00:03:58,340 --> 00:03:52,470 over here and then there are oxygen 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:03:58,350 features as well oh all right 79 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:02,130 thanks for the tip awesome great so 80 00:04:06,050 --> 00:04:03,870 those are the features that we're going 81 00:04:09,410 --> 00:04:06,060 to recreate in our model which is 82 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:09,420 basically a planet it's visible 83 00:04:12,860 --> 00:04:11,250 hemisphere would be divided into 100 84 00:04:14,810 --> 00:04:12,870 points and for each point we're going to 85 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:14,820 run radiative transfer on it as well as 86 00:04:19,039 --> 00:04:16,320 including scattering to determine the 87 00:04:20,630 --> 00:04:19,049 geometric albedo overall and then we're 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:20,640 going to translate that into the planet 89 00:04:25,970 --> 00:04:22,650 2 star flux ratios which is what we're 90 00:04:27,140 --> 00:04:25,980 going to be able to observe and speaking 91 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:27,150 of what we're actually going to be 92 00:04:30,740 --> 00:04:28,440 observing it's going to be something 93 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:30,750 that's lower in resolution so here I 94 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:32,460 have an example of Planet 2 star flux 95 00:04:36,980 --> 00:04:34,740 ratio versus wavelength at a resolution 96 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:36,990 of 70 97 00:04:41,689 --> 00:04:38,910 and what's more is that these data are 98 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:41,699 going to be noisy so in this case we 99 00:04:51,129 --> 00:04:45,000 have a data set that our signal-to-noise 100 00:04:53,870 --> 00:04:51,139 ratio or SNR of 20 what's going to be 101 00:04:58,700 --> 00:04:53,880 really informative is we if we have a 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:04:58,710 way to justify a certain signal-to-noise 103 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:01,050 ratio that will allow us to quantify 104 00:05:08,210 --> 00:05:06,150 constraints on water vapor or oxygen so 105 00:05:11,089 --> 00:05:08,220 in this case I have a spectrum that's 106 00:05:12,589 --> 00:05:11,099 signal-to-noise ratio of 10 and so how 107 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:12,599 will that do in comparison to the 108 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:16,110 signal-to-noise of 20 and would we be 109 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:18,030 able to get away with signal-to-noise of 110 00:05:21,140 --> 00:05:19,860 5 and still get the amount of constraint 111 00:05:24,589 --> 00:05:21,150 that we would want on interested 112 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:24,599 quantities so we aim to understand what 113 00:05:30,770 --> 00:05:26,610 information is present as a function of 114 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:30,780 signal-to-noise ratio and to do that 115 00:05:35,390 --> 00:05:32,430 we're going to use a Bayesian retrieval 116 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:35,400 framework that chiu-hung introduced the 117 00:05:39,260 --> 00:05:37,280 concept pretty well earlier this morning 118 00:05:41,629 --> 00:05:39,270 essentially we're going to have a bunch 119 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:41,639 of input parameters that have prior 120 00:05:46,189 --> 00:05:43,770 distributions that we'll draw from and 121 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:46,199 construct one set of parameters we're 122 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:47,580 going to put it into the forward model 123 00:05:52,459 --> 00:05:49,740 which generates a high-resolution albedo 124 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:52,469 spectrum that we then bend down to the 125 00:05:55,610 --> 00:05:54,479 resolution of the data and this is when 126 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:55,620 we'll get to do the interesting 127 00:05:59,930 --> 00:05:57,930 goodness-of-fit comparison by feeding it 128 00:06:01,279 --> 00:05:59,940 into a chi-square likelihood function 129 00:06:02,990 --> 00:06:01,289 and it's going to be an iterative 130 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:03,000 process where we'll draw from those 131 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:05,449 prior distributions again and again and 132 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:07,530 compare that goodness of fit again and 133 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:09,780 again until we construct the posterior 134 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:12,090 probability distributions for each of 135 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:18,000 those parameters another way of thinking 136 00:06:24,589 --> 00:06:21,110 about a retrieval is this is a very 137 00:06:26,450 --> 00:06:24,599 data-driven method so for a given set of 138 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:26,460 data and we propose a set of parameters 139 00:06:31,159 --> 00:06:28,440 there's going to be a corresponding 140 00:06:33,409 --> 00:06:31,169 spectrum that follows that proposed set 141 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:33,419 of parameters and then for a given range 142 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:34,889 of parameters because there's going to 143 00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:36,750 be a range of spectra and so we'll be 144 00:06:40,730 --> 00:06:39,000 able to visualize the spread and our 145 00:06:44,149 --> 00:06:40,740 confidence in terms of how well our 146 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:44,159 model fit the data so here we have red 147 00:06:47,869 --> 00:06:46,260 is lunch Sigma for the spread we have 148 00:06:51,049 --> 00:06:47,879 coral that 149 00:06:53,989 --> 00:06:51,059 for the two sigma spread and then 150 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:53,999 there's also a blue line over here and I 151 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:55,650 just want to say that we're using the I 152 00:06:59,959 --> 00:06:57,210 think I forgot to mention we're using 153 00:07:03,170 --> 00:06:59,969 the noise model that Ty Robinson created 154 00:07:05,029 --> 00:07:03,180 for coronagraphs and in terms of the 155 00:07:06,829 --> 00:07:05,039 larger error bars over here in the red 156 00:07:08,749 --> 00:07:06,839 end this is partially due to the fact 157 00:07:10,999 --> 00:07:08,759 that there are fewer photons from the 158 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:11,009 host star in this particular part of the 159 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:14,819 spectrum and the texture quantum 160 00:07:19,730 --> 00:07:16,710 efficiency in the red end tends to fall 161 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:19,740 off or at least that's the case for a W 162 00:07:25,339 --> 00:07:21,599 type W first type scenario we're 163 00:07:27,139 --> 00:07:25,349 considering so going back to this idea 164 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:27,149 of posteriors I'm going to start with an 165 00:07:31,209 --> 00:07:28,770 example where we only have two free 166 00:07:33,739 --> 00:07:31,219 parameters so this is an atmosphere with 167 00:07:35,719 --> 00:07:33,749 a surface pressure that we're going to 168 00:07:38,989 --> 00:07:35,729 retrieve for and water vapor and we're 169 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,999 assuming we know everything else so here 170 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:40,800 are those posterior distributions after 171 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:43,199 we perform the retrieval and you can see 172 00:07:46,219 --> 00:07:44,849 this is for water this is for surface 173 00:07:49,309 --> 00:07:46,229 pressure and then the blue lines 174 00:07:50,899 --> 00:07:49,319 indicate the truth input values and the 175 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:50,909 power of the retrieval methods that were 176 00:07:57,949 --> 00:07:52,889 able to attach uncertainties to our 177 00:08:01,249 --> 00:07:57,959 estimates but of course life is not that 178 00:08:03,679 --> 00:08:01,259 easy we are not always going to only 179 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:03,689 have two unknowns so we've developed a 180 00:08:07,699 --> 00:08:05,310 forward model where we have nine 181 00:08:09,949 --> 00:08:07,709 retrievable parameters and this is a set 182 00:08:11,570 --> 00:08:09,959 of parameters that we think represents a 183 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:11,580 minimum number of parameters that are 184 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:13,289 necessary in order to recreate an 185 00:08:18,350 --> 00:08:16,169 earth-like spectrum so we have surface 186 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:18,360 pressure surface albedo the mixing 187 00:08:23,329 --> 00:08:21,120 ratios for water ozone and oxygen and we 188 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:23,339 have a cloud layer that has a cloud top 189 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:26,849 pressure of Delta P and obstacle depth 190 00:08:33,319 --> 00:08:28,649 and then an F cloud parameter to 191 00:08:35,870 --> 00:08:33,329 represent fractional cloudiness and for 192 00:08:37,370 --> 00:08:35,880 the sake of not being too complicated we 193 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:37,380 decided that we want to assume that we 194 00:08:41,990 --> 00:08:39,690 know the radius the semi-major axis what 195 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:42,000 the background gas is and we're also 196 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:43,889 implementing an isothermal pressure 197 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:48,329 temperature profile so once our forward 198 00:08:53,449 --> 00:08:49,769 model is assembled we're able to 199 00:08:56,269 --> 00:08:53,459 simulate the spectra between point four 200 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:56,279 and one micron at a resolution of 201 00:09:01,280 --> 00:08:57,600 seventy and for four different 202 00:09:06,810 --> 00:09:04,680 so first up we have the results from the 203 00:09:08,970 --> 00:09:06,820 signal-to-noise ratio of five data and 204 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:08,980 just by eye you can tell that there's 205 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:11,560 not going to be much information that 206 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:13,930 the data will be able to give us and we 207 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:15,610 see that very well with the spectral 208 00:09:18,990 --> 00:09:17,680 Fitz and I've marked the water features 209 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:19,000 over here because I'm about to walk 210 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:21,040 through the posterior distribution for 211 00:09:25,710 --> 00:09:23,440 water for each signal-to-noise ratio so 212 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:25,720 you can see how that changes once the 213 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:29,230 data get better so first it's the same 214 00:09:34,890 --> 00:09:31,690 signal to noise and you can see so this 215 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:34,900 is log of water vapor mixing ratio and 216 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:37,090 this is the true value so there is no 217 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:42,160 detection for this SNR going up to SNR 218 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:45,610 of 10 there is still no detection and we 219 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:48,340 step it up to SNR 15 and this is where 220 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:50,350 it got really awesome where we were able 221 00:09:57,150 --> 00:09:52,840 to get a constraint on the water vapor 222 00:09:59,550 --> 00:09:57,160 pressure mixing ratio and returning to 223 00:10:01,680 --> 00:09:59,560 that comparison to the spectra you can 224 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:01,690 see in this case we actually are able to 225 00:10:05,460 --> 00:10:03,970 trace out the features much better and 226 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:05,470 that's because we have that constrained 227 00:10:11,970 --> 00:10:08,290 water vapor now however water is not the 228 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:11,980 only thing we care about and if we look 229 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:14,560 instead at the broader picture and we 230 00:10:19,530 --> 00:10:16,330 think about the gases were interested in 231 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:19,540 water ozone and oxygen we see that in 232 00:10:26,340 --> 00:10:22,600 this case so this is water this is ozone 233 00:10:28,860 --> 00:10:26,350 this oxygen comparing SNR 15 and SNR 20 234 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:28,870 you can see that it is only with SNR 20 235 00:10:33,210 --> 00:10:30,550 that we are able to actually constrain 236 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:33,220 all three molecules so this shows us 237 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:35,610 that retrievals are actually able to 238 00:10:39,810 --> 00:10:37,990 allow us to make these statements and 239 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:39,820 not only that we're able to back it up 240 00:10:47,070 --> 00:10:45,280 with quantitative reasoning so moving 241 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:47,080 forward what we're excited about 242 00:10:52,830 --> 00:10:50,770 implementing is connecting or expanding 243 00:10:54,660 --> 00:10:52,840 beyond just studying earth-like planets 244 00:10:55,950 --> 00:10:54,670 we want to be able to model super earth 245 00:10:58,740 --> 00:10:55,960 we want to be able to model many 246 00:11:00,660 --> 00:10:58,750 Neptune's because those are the Kepler 247 00:11:03,210 --> 00:11:00,670 mission found are the most common small 248 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:03,220 planets in the galaxy 249 00:11:09,630 --> 00:11:07,570 and then as Sean alluded to earlier 250 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:09,640 we're going to expand our wavelength 251 00:11:12,210 --> 00:11:11,740 range such that we can accommodate the 252 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:12,220 interest 253 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:14,350 5x and levar as we move forward in 254 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:16,960 exploring what types of data we'll be 255 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:20,770 able to enable our accurate inference 256 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,520 about an atmosphere and then furthermore 257 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:27,120 we want to be able to implement surface 258 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:29,740 wavelength dependent surface albedo so 259 00:11:32,910 --> 00:11:31,270 Jake who's speaking after me will be 260 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:32,920 able to tell us about how important it 261 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:35,050 is to consider the heterogeneity for the 262 00:11:44,610 --> 00:11:42,160 surface of the planet so to wrap up we 263 00:11:47,730 --> 00:11:44,620 have created a retrieval framework that 264 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:47,740 is able to allow us to quantitatively 265 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:51,010 say how confident we are in our 266 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:52,660 understanding of a terrestrial 267 00:11:56,850 --> 00:11:54,730 atmosphere when observed with a future 268 00:12:00,770 --> 00:11:56,860 space-based coronagraph or starshade 269 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:00,780 imaging mission we have studied 270 00:12:06,930 --> 00:12:03,910 simulated spectra from 0.4 to 1 micron 271 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:06,940 at a resolution of 70 and we found that 272 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:09,040 it is only at a signal-to-noise ratio of 273 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:10,540 20 that were able to constrain 274 00:12:15,780 --> 00:12:12,880 quantities like water ozone and oxygen 275 00:12:17,490 --> 00:12:15,790 all together moving forward there are 276 00:12:19,020 --> 00:12:17,500 lots of things we want to be able to 277 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:19,030 implement and so I would like to hear 278 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:20,530 what your thoughts are and take any 279 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:22,650 questions thank you 280 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:29,310 [Applause] 281 00:12:35,370 --> 00:12:33,280 that's great talk in terms of the inputs 282 00:12:37,230 --> 00:12:35,380 for your model let's let's say one of 283 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:37,240 these flagships get selected is flying 284 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:40,690 into the 2030s how important are the NA 285 00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:43,150 prior knowledge of the semi-major axis 286 00:12:46,260 --> 00:12:44,740 the radius or we might be able to get a 287 00:12:48,810 --> 00:12:46,270 limit on the radius from a dynamical 288 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:48,820 Mass how important is the the 289 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:51,040 information on the planet before the 290 00:12:55,710 --> 00:12:52,990 mission actually flies that we get a few 291 00:12:59,040 --> 00:12:55,720 images and how critical is it or is it 292 00:13:00,240 --> 00:12:59,050 is do you think you can there's not 293 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:00,250 enough degeneracies you might be able to 294 00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:02,710 get away without that information so in 295 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:04,840 terms of radius we have already tried 296 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:06,850 retrieving on radius and in fact if you 297 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:09,610 refer to Michael and IX 2016 paper where 298 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:11,590 they're looking at jovian planets in the 299 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:12,790 reflective light they retrieve for 300 00:13:16,950 --> 00:13:15,430 radius and so that is something that we 301 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:16,960 might be able to put constraints on 302 00:13:19,710 --> 00:13:18,250 ourselves because it's going to be 303 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:19,720 difficult to actually measure that for a 304 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:22,960 planet but for semi-major axes I think 305 00:13:27,690 --> 00:13:24,730 that'll be really important to know well 306 00:13:31,740 --> 00:13:27,700 in terms of getting the uncertainties on 307 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:31,750 that down because that could impact just 308 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:35,770 where the the data sit and so but we 309 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:37,750 haven't looked into throwing that into 310 00:13:41,130 --> 00:13:39,040 our retrieval so at least for the 311 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:41,140 semi-major axis I would say that would 312 00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:42,910 be something in terms of a strong tree 313 00:13:51,210 --> 00:13:48,000 we want to be able to get well I can 314 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:51,220 obviou mandel from goddard one common 315 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:53,290 one question the comment is you probably 316 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:54,790 are aware of this but I'd like to hear 317 00:13:59,640 --> 00:13:56,650 which if you guys have started exploring 318 00:14:01,770 --> 00:13:59,650 it each of those points or parts of the 319 00:14:04,340 --> 00:14:01,780 spectrum will be taken on with different 320 00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:04,350 observations with W first at least 321 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:07,480 you'll get in on an optical band you'll 322 00:14:12,540 --> 00:14:09,970 get a certain ifs band and so it'd be 323 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:12,550 really nice to be able to prioritize one 324 00:14:17,970 --> 00:14:15,690 observation or a set of observations 325 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:17,980 rather than saying we need the whole 326 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:19,900 spectrum have you guys started doing 327 00:14:26,670 --> 00:14:24,850 that or is that yeah so we have an 328 00:14:29,490 --> 00:14:26,680 instrument model set up right now where 329 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:29,500 we have the two blue filters as well as 330 00:14:37,619 --> 00:14:33,519 the from 692 331 00:14:40,189 --> 00:14:37,629 600 - 600 to 900 nanometers in space so 332 00:14:43,259 --> 00:14:40,199 we have that set up we have yet to 333 00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:43,269 separate those three ifs bands though I 334 00:14:47,249 --> 00:14:45,279 mean I know that some parts of the 335 00:14:48,660 --> 00:14:47,259 spectra they overlap so it would be 336 00:14:50,850 --> 00:14:48,670 interesting to think about that in terms 337 00:14:53,850 --> 00:14:50,860 of having very good signal to noise 338 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:53,860 ratios in that particular area so we're 339 00:14:57,389 --> 00:14:54,790 like halfway there 340 00:15:00,090 --> 00:14:57,399 okay and my question was are we going to 341 00:15:04,169 --> 00:15:00,100 have to cut the oh you're I just had one 342 00:15:06,269 --> 00:15:04,179 short question yeah you can I was just 343 00:15:08,189 --> 00:15:06,279 you you said you took all the points on 344 00:15:10,530 --> 00:15:08,199 a hemisphere and yet you have a globally 345 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:10,540 averaged profile why do you have to use 346 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:13,420 all of the individual points across your 347 00:15:20,970 --> 00:15:18,670 your atmosphere um maybe maybe it was my 348 00:15:22,169 --> 00:15:20,980 wording that was off about the global 349 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:22,179 yawn so yeah we can talk later 350 00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:24,790 Thanks all right let's get cut another